Log rot – Replace log or cover it with siding?

September 3rd, 2010

Here’s a question we receive periodically: “My log home has some rot in several logs on a couple of the walls. We don’t really want to deal with the rot so we are considering putting some sort of log siding over them to cover them up. Is that an adequate solution?”

Another common situation we come across is when someone purchases a log home or cabin and they are aware that the previous owner has put some siding up on one or more of the log walls. They call us wondering what they should do. After seeing this so called “solution” used on numerous log buildings over the past 30 years, we have some thoughts on the subject.

This is an example of log siding.

One good reason NOT to use siding or other methods of covering the rotten logs rather than replacing them with true whole or half logs is that the look will not be the same. It can really diminish the overall aesthetics and value of a log building. Using log siding can look like you tried to match the logs, but really it is only a “sort-of-tried”! It just doesn’t look the same.

Most log siding is usually 1.5 – 2″ thick. So if the plan is to remove some of the rot and fit the log siding over that area, you typically cannot remove all of the rotted wood because all that you have to put back in its place is siding that is only 1.5 – 2″ thick. Often there is considerably more than an inch or two of rot somewhere in the log so you are not actually removing all of the deteriorated wood, which means there is still a source of food for certain insects such as carpenter ants or powder post beetles to feed on.  Read more…

Log home repair and WATER – what’s the connection?

August 26th, 2010

In the simplest of terms – logs rot because of WATER! It seems like a simple concept but the solution to keep logs from getting too much moisture in them is anything but simple.

We spend a good deal of our time helping customers remedy problems they are having with rot that is directly caused by the fact that some of their logs have been allowed to stay too wet over time.

So what’s the big deal with too much moisture in the logs? In a word – ROT! The rot organism needs four ingredients to begin degrading wood.

It needs:

  1. Moisture content between 20% and 30% in the wood’s fiber. While this percentage varies from species to species, most wood will start to deteriorate at around 20% moisture.
  2. Temperatures between 60º and 90º. This is why most of the active rotting occurs during our hot, humid summers.
  3. Oxygen – rot needs it to get going. This is why wood that is underwater does not rot. There is not enough ‘free oxygen’ for the process to take place.
  4. A food source. This is what the rot organism eats – in this case the wood in your house.

Rot needs all these things to get established. If we can eliminate one of these ‘ingredients’ we can stop the rot process, which is easier said than done.

It is impossible to change the temperatures away from being 60-90° in the summer. As living organisms ourselves, we need oxygen too, just like rot. Rot eating wood is one of the laws of nature, so the only factor that we can control is the moisture content, i.e. WATER!  Read more…

Log homes – cleaning the exterior logs is a good thing.

August 16th, 2010

Log homes have so many features that make them a desirable place to spend time in. Aesthetically, they evoke so many emotions such as quiet, peace, and relaxation. If you own a log home yourself, you know that they also demand a certain amount of attention on a regular basis when it comes to properly maintaining them.

One part of routine maintenance we want to address is cleaning the exterior logs. This is an important task that should be done periodically. The frequency depends on all sorts of factors such as where the log home is situated in terms of overhanging trees, dirt paths, grass clippings from mowing the lawn, cobwebs, etc.  Is the home located along a dirt road? Is there splash back onto the logs when it rains? Are there birds nesting in the eves and leaving behind bird droppings on your logs? You get the picture.

It is a wise idea to clean the logs to remove as much of the residue mentioned above. Clean logs breath better, therefore they dry out more readily. Cleaning them can help remove spores that can cause mold or mildew to develop. Most importantly, it is necessary to clean them in preparation for applying another coat of finish to them in order to maximize the stains ability to penetrate and adhere to the wood itself.

We recommend cleaning logs with a combination of water and a wood-friendly detergent, i.e. TSP (Trisodium Phosphate Cleaner). We want to stress that we DO NOT recommend power-washing logs to clean them. Applying water under high pressure can be detrimental to the “health” of a log building. For more information on this, check out this link to our site Blasting vs. Power Washing”. Though this page refers to the negative side of using power washing as a method to remove failing stain, the reasons for not doing it apply even if you just want to clean your logs.

If we are dealing with caked on or embedded dirt on a log wall, we  use a product called OxiClean®. Diluted in water, this product does not leave a film behind if rinsed off thoroughly. OxiClean® can be purchased in many stores including your grocery store.  Another cleaning solution we recommend  is TSP mixed with water. Again, this in non-film forming soap and can be purchased at your local hardware or paint store. You do not want to use dish soap or chlorine bleach. These can leave a film behind and can cause problems with the stain adhering.

Be sure to rinse the cleaning solution off thoroughly using a garden hose with a sprayer attached.

We have recently experimented with cleaning dirty logs by blasting them with corncob — the goal being to merely clean them, not to remove the finish.  Sometimes this works, sometimes not.  We wanted to see if this “dry” method was a more efficient way to clean logs as opposed to the wet method described above. What we learned is that this did work on one house and did not work on another.

Bottom line – keeping your building free of dirt, cobwebs, bird droppings, etc. is part of what we consider necessary maintenance that can help you avoid having to do expensive repairs down the road. For more information on maintaining log buildings, click here.

Here are several links to our website that may be of interest:

Log homes and decks – a nice combination but…

August 2nd, 2010

Improper flashing where a deck connects to a log wall can cause problems. Decks on log homes need to be installed correctly and maintained to avoid problems with rot.

One thing we often come across are rotten logs along a deck that has been connected to a house. The logs that the deck is attached to are in a particularly vulnerable place and therefore, need to be watched for signs of rot.

Gutters can be part of the solution to preventing problems with rot in this area of a log home or cabin.

Sometimes it makes sense to install gutters along a roof ridge that overhangs onto a deck. This can divert a large portion of the rainwater that naturally sheds off the roof from landing on the deck surface where it will inevitably splash up on the lower logs. (See Why Do Logs Rot))  Read more…

Buying a Log Home — what to look for

June 28th, 2010

We often get calls from people who are looking at purchasing a log home for the first time. A common statement is, “I am considering purchasing a log home but I really don’t know much about them. What should I be aware of?” It is standard practice when home shopping to have a home inspection done before putting an offer in.  Home inspectors have varying degrees of knowledge about log homes and sometimes, a home buyer thinks the inspector has given the home a “clean bill of health’ when in fact, the logs may have hidden problems with rot or the basic design of the house is such that it can contribute to the common problems that log homes can have.

Log homes and cabins tend to have unique problems and often it takes someone who has specific expertise in log homes to be able to recognize these problems.  When we have done pre-purchase inspections on log buildings, sometimes we discover major problems that need to be addressed such as:

log rot under deck

Rot caused by improper flashing between attached deck and log wall

- Rotted logs
- Failing finish or stain
- Signs of leaking on the interior walls of the home
- Improperly flashed decks, windows, roofs

Other times during a pre-purchase inspection, we find problems that may not necessarily require immediate repair but could become problems in the future. Many times the new owner, in conjunction with the seller, can negotiate to have these issues fixed. When considering buying an existing log home, it is important to go into the venture with your “eyes wide open”.  You want to know exactly what you are buying and what it takes to be in the position of maintaining your investment versus repairing it.  Read more…

Log home maintenance – Another story from on the road

June 9th, 2010

Remembering George “Buzz” Geist

They say it is a small world. Well, the world of log homeowners is even smaller.  And the world of owners whose log homes have been revitalized by Edmunds and Company Log Home Restorations is smaller yet.  Back in 2007, Dave Geist and I were standing together on the banks of the Encampment River on the North Shore of Lake Superior, going over details of the job we were on.  Dave was the contractor overseeing the restoration we were doing in this historic compound of privately owned log cabins, nestled in the ancient rock formations and large trees near where the river empties into the lake.

Over the constant roar of the river, I heard Dave ask,

“We might have something in common.  Do you have a fellow named Blaise working for your company? I hear he is dating my pediatrician’s daughter.”
“Yes I do. Actually he is my oldest son. But doesn’t your children’s physician live in Northfield, MN? That’s a long way from here.”
“We live there in the winter. My wife teaches at St. Olaf College.”

That was a coincidence.  And that it should even come up in conversation was more unlikely. By the way, my son went on to marry that fine young woman, the daughter of the woman who is a pediatrician in Northfield. There was something else that I couldn’t put my finger on.  Dave’s last name seemed familiar.  When I mentioned the exchange to my boss, Matt Edmunds, he told me that Dave Geist was the son of a former client of ours, Buzz Geist.  Now this was another coincidence.  Read more…

Log homes can have problems with wood boring insects

June 4th, 2010

Carpenter ants present

We have been getting lots of calls from people who are concerned about the tiny holes they see in their logs. It’s that time of year when bugs can become a major concern for a log home owner. Boring insects are a common problem that we see in log homes and cabins. The boring insects that we have in the Midwest are commonly the carpenter ant/bee and the powderpost beetle. These insects bore into your home leaving in their path small holes in the logs and a bit of dust. They feed on deteriorating wood so this really makes them a symptom more than a problem in and of themselves.

The most common insect in log homes is the carpenter ant. The carpenter ant infests wood that is rotting, although they do not cause the rot. The holes these carpenter ants bore are about ¼” in diameter or the size of a pencil.

Powderpost beetle holes are smaller than those made by carpenter ants

Powderpost beetles are also common in log homes but they don’t generally do structural damage and are most times not the best indicator of rotting wood. Their holes are the size of a pencil lead. Neither of these insects do structural damage to the logs themselves but carpenter ants may be a warning sign to you that your logs are getting wet or have some rot in them.  Read more…

Log rot repair – Epoxy fillers are not a good solution.

May 20th, 2010

There are many different companies on the Internet selling “stuff” to fix problems with rot in log homes. These include borate rods, liquid treatments and epoxy fillers.  If you’ve found this blog post, you have likely seen a few of these sites.  One of the most common log rot repair products out there is generically called “epoxy fillers”.  Basically this type of product is advertised as something one would use to fill holes where rot has happened.

Over the years, we at Edmunds & Company have worked on a number of buildings that have had epoxy “repairs” done on the logs in the past. We have seen that this type of repair does not last and at worst, it can cause further rot.

This is what is wrong with epoxy: Let’s start with the basic fact that epoxy is not wood.  Epoxy expands and contracts at a different rate than wood does. Here in lies the problem.  A few years after the epoxy patch is done, the wood surrounding the patch loosens and cracks appear around the epoxy.  When this happens, water is allowed to make its way into these cracks. Once the water finds its way in, the rot continues.  (See Why Do Logs Rot)  Read more…

Stories from on the road

May 12th, 2010

"Quality is an understatement with the Edmunds group and their high-quality restoration work. We had a plaque made stating 'This home restored with superior craftsmanship by Barb, Blaise, Daniel, Jared, Jed, Jesse and Matt'. (Notice it on the wall behind them.) We would also like to add that those named above are the most wonderful people personally. Our very highest compliments to Edmunds & Company." Ken and Kay Uecker, Janesville, WI

Log Home Restoration – Stories from our work on the road

Jesse Sopiwnik, one of our site supervisors, wrote this account about an incident that happened last year when he and his crew were on a job in Janesville, Wisconsin.

In our business, there can be basis for some unlikely situations. We rarely have problems with our customers, at least problems that we cannot solve. Because many of our projects are on log structures that are second homes, the customer is not there to witness our work.

On the other hand, sometimes we work on primary residences. The customers are there having to tolerate the roar of chainsaws, tools and equipment scattered everywhere, and the dust and devastation of removing rotten logs. It often gets uglier before it gets better. This is sometimes hard to explain to customers who have never seen this kind of work being done before.  Read more…

“Film-forming finishes” are not a good choice for log homes

May 6th, 2010

Repair and restoration of log homes – In our 30 years in the log home restoration and repair business, we have seen many disastrous problems with rot in log homes. Some of the most tragic problems we have seen have been the result of having what I refer to as a “film-forming finish” on the logs.

up-facing cracks can lead to rot

Darkening logs is indicative of failing "film forming finish". This one had up-facing checks that caused some of the rot issues, as well.

When I say tragic I mean we have seen extensive rot in homes that are 10 years old or less. While the rotted logs cannot be blamed solely on these “film-forming finishes”, it is certainly a factor that adds significantly to their decay.

Let me take a minute to explain what I mean by “film-forming finishes” and what we expect from finishes in general and then get into how they can cause problems on log homes and cabins.  Read more…